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Post by Tovarisch on May 26, 2009 10:32:10 GMT 10
Lets get back on topic, shall we?
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Post by Wastelander // Love muffin on May 26, 2009 12:23:45 GMT 10
Oh cut the head off the snake, thanks. Why is it that you insist on doing things like that, when you know i cant go anywhere with it?, Why didn't you just write Track, instead of topic?, why do you do this to me?, Im trying to get my posts up and i asked you NOT to write TOPIC, and yet, you did anyway, Why?
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Post by Butterfly Effect // ?Conor? on May 26, 2009 19:55:56 GMT 10
*Ignores the Ddmin* The communism thing did work (for a bit), Russia was doing okay, the problem wasn't in the idea but in the people. people cant exept the fact that others can be equal to them, people always want to feel superior to someone else, and so the idea of people being equal is rejected by the human mind. And that is why the concept of communism is idealogically flawed. Because for everyone to receive equal portions and money than there has to be a state with a higher authority, therefore they arenot equal. And the second a human gets power human nature gets them to better there own lives with it. Also, as a side-note, the only reason Russia got anywhere in the beggining was that Trotsky and Lennin beleived that the underclass needed to always be challenging the government. The second that ideal was removed and the situation became what we now know as coventional communism than the whole thing qent down s**t creek.
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Post by Makhno on May 26, 2009 20:00:20 GMT 10
That's why i turned to anarchism instead.
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Post by Butterfly Effect // ?Conor? on May 26, 2009 20:05:24 GMT 10
Anarchism is even more retarded that commusism
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Post by Tovarisch on May 26, 2009 20:08:02 GMT 10
Now now, play nicely...
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Post by callofdutymodern ak m4 mi6 on May 26, 2009 20:36:18 GMT 10
EDIT: Do not spam under any circumstance!
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Post by Slim shady on May 26, 2009 21:02:32 GMT 10
Get rid of Royal family then .... use Che guevara 's idea's and elect Slim as PM
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Post by Makhno on May 27, 2009 4:23:55 GMT 10
Anarchism is even more retarded that commusism I'd be interested in a documented and intellignet argument against anarchism. Cos i've never heard one.
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Post by Butterfly Effect // ?Conor? on May 27, 2009 7:11:55 GMT 10
It's the same proposal as communism, just slightly tweaked to create the impression of lack of state control. As keymaker said, it all goes back to how the human brain works.
Theory of anarchism is bassically no government or police, corret? Every lives in harmony working togther without being taxed etc? Now this is where I get hazy, are you all relying on the free market here to make money or do you give freely share around each other? Because both of those ideals are flawed. 1) Relying off the free Market: Ok so some people are now uber rich and powerful, some are not. Rhis raises the curtain for guerilla warfare. We now have a millitant Government YAY! So there gois the fundamental ideal behind anarchy. 2) Sharing: same deal with communism and what keymaker said. Human instinct is not to share and the second smething goes wrong and there is famine and reccession and pandemics etc everyone is gunna be looking after number one. I know if I had the medicine and there was a Swine flu virus going around that I would be giving the medicine to family and friends and not just anyone who was stricken. So without someone to mandate who is giving and taking what, we get accusations of cheating the system and infighting. Someone wins and there is nothing to stop them from being is worse because you dissolved police forces. power to the highest bidder. And if you do bring in someone to madate it all it loses the ideals of anarchism making it a communist society.
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Post by flapjack56 on May 27, 2009 7:13:51 GMT 10
Bravo *claps* Would someone care to explain what anarchism is? Something to do with Anarchy?
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Post by Butterfly Effect // ?Conor? on May 27, 2009 7:18:12 GMT 10
It's a society without government or police, put very bassically. It's meant to be harmonious but most poeple who 'take up' the ideal are just snotty teenagers who don't really get it, see the word anarchy and just want to do damage.
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Post by Tovarisch on May 27, 2009 7:21:48 GMT 10
You cant label people, not everyone is stupid you know.
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Post by joshtraceur on May 27, 2009 7:57:25 GMT 10
Not all, but a fair bit of those current affairs shows (not news) are just exaggerated to make people believe it, there also biased to one side, and try and present it like its the news, again, to make people believe it and become hooked on the story. Also, have you noticed that people only care about story's that could affect them? With the swine flue, its killed what 80 people? and it happens to be on the news every 5 mins cause people are worried some Australians (themselves) will catch it, when thousands every day die from aids and malnutrition, in places where it won't affect us.
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Post by Wastelander // Love muffin on May 27, 2009 10:01:25 GMT 10
That brings us to the human mind again, the human mind only cares about its self, if its not better than another than its lost purpose and thats why people only care about things that have a chance to effect them.
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